Monday, October 5, 2009

Re: [AskAVet] Re: Stallions

you keep saying that show horse breeders should go looking for that...so why cant you go looking for another one like him? Instead of making another one.

For the same reason show horse owners make one instead of buying one.? They want one from their horse.? I already have 3 from God only knows were.? If I choose to, I should?be allowed to have one from my stallion but it's sort of a mute point because he can't seem to close the deal without assistance and as I stated in an earlier post, I'm not assisting him so he's out of luck.? If by some miracle he produces another foal, great, if not, that's?fine too.? I love him as he is, job or not :)

And I'm just curious, what on earth does a cat do for a living to earn his keep?

Lisa


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From: twinpinesmt <twinpinesmt@yahoo.com>
To: askavet@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:28 pm
Subject: [AskAVet] Re: Stallions

ok I have to admit children and stallions really really scare me, as do children and colts growing up together.

ranch mare 14yo, was cowboyed on and team penned on for 11 years. came here, and worked her butt off working cows and checking cows in the mountains. She will not be spitting out babies right and left she still has a job to do. A stallion can still breed and work and he can have many many many foals a year.

show mare 9yo, futurity horse/reiner wash out...she is now a cow horse/ranch show horse I am not a cow horse trainer or cutter and I put the fence and the cut on her good enough to win some money at unsanctioned shows for the past 5 years. She was stall raised so she is pretty silly about her feet so she doesnt go into the mountains, but is pretty handy for sorting here at home.

a good stallion will make a GREAT gelding and you can always find that 'diamond in the rough' in another gelding...you keep saying that show horse breeders should go looking for that...so why cant you go looking for another one like him? Instead of making another one.

My animals are a business, almost all of them earn their keep. Including the dogs, cats, goats, sheep and llama. But I also take better care of them than most people do also. I know it sounds harsh. These mares may only have one foal, if they dont add up they dont get to make more..its that simple. They are not having babies for the experience or for the local kids to see the mircle of birth..they can see that with the all the cattle around here....

--- In askavet@yahoogroups.com, PrincessLisa369@... wrote:
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> You say your horses have jobs and have "proven their worth"?? My stallion is excellent on the trail and he loves children.?? I also discovered this weekend that he's a great jumper.?? All of the children ask to ride him.?? How is breeding because people have been asking you?to any different than me breeding because?a gentleman asked me to breed?Sonny for his daughter...who wants to learn to jump?? How do you define "proving their worth?"? Really, just trying to get an understanding here.
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> Thank you! Like I said, I am not against breeding. If a horse has a job and is good at it he will usually have a place and will get a chance to retire. Or can teach someone else his trade. I have three retired mares, a semi-retired gelding and a burro sitting around on this place. Everything else is broke to ride and has a job. There has not been a foal raised on this place in 4 1/2 years. However we will be breeding two mares early this spring, one a ranch mare the other a show mare. Both have proven their worth and I have had people asking for the show mare or a baby out of her for years. If they dont sell they will get started and if they dont sell after that well they can replace the older ranch or show horses so they can retire.....
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> > I think the point being made about the show horses or horses with champion blood lines was that in this economy,it is almost impossible to sell horses and when people can get top of the line horses for practically nothing, it's the less than perfect ones that suffer. We have people around here (So. CA) that can't even give away the horses they can't afford to keep anymore and they are turning them loose in the river beds and along the roads in hopes they will be able to find food & water. The rescues are full and no one wants to take on any more horses because the expense of keeping them has gone up so much. So people get upset when they hear of someone breeding more horses. If you can afford to keep them and care for them properly, it's not so bad. But unexpected things happen - income drops unexpectedly, physical disabilities develop, etc. Then what to do with the horses (or other animals) becomes a problem. As much as we would like it to be so, there is no way to guarantee that our horses will be taken care of forever, but the best of the best stand the best chance.
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