Lisa
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From: Tim Vanloan <vanloan79@yahoo.com>
To: askavet@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:47 am
Subject: Re: [AskAVet] Re: infertil stallion
In animal populations it's very common for the males to move on as they begin to approach sexual maturity. I can't say this is specific for horses but in other animal populations we used to think it was from the mothers chasing them away, but in many cases they'll relocate even if something happens to the mother. This has been well studied in whitetail deer. Fawns that lost their mothers still tend to relocate, so I would assume its a response to some type of genetic coding.
--- On Thu, 10/1/09, PrincessLisa369@aol.com <PrincessLisa369@aol.com> wrote:
From: PrincessLisa369@aol.com <PrincessLisa369@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [AskAVet] Re: infertil stallion
To: askavet@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 10:10 PM
Thank you CJ. That's interesting. They kick the maturing males out just like Lions. Stallions really do have a hard time in the wild. I guess what they say is true, there can be only one stallion in a barn.
Lisa
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From: CJ Ewell <fnp_cj@hotmail. com>
To: askavet@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2009 6:12 pm
Subject: RE: [AskAVet] Re: infertil stallion
Out in the wild a colt is banished from his mother's band somewhere around 18 mo, give or take (and this seems to be related to the season he was born in and the geographical area). He meets up with others like him and they form a bachelor band. As they mature, they will each try to invade and take over a band of mares from an established stallion. This may take many attempts. Some are badly injured, some die. Some never make it.
Those who succeed then must take care of that band, until another upstart comes along. Life is not easy for a stallion in the wild.
CJ Ewell
To: askavet@yahoogroups .com
From: PrincessLisa369@ aol.com
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:22:24 -0400
Subject: Re: [AskAVet] Re: infertil stallion
Since I'm forever on a quest to learn and grow I have to ask.? I read a lot about "natural horsemanship" and maintaining the integrity of the horse.? They say he should be able to do what comes naturally to him and so on and we should learn how horses behave rather than forcing them to behave as we do so to speak.? So with that in mind,?w
hat would?the stallion?do if he were out in the wild?? I'm really just wondering.?
Lisa
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From: oagrant <oagrant@roadrunner. com>
To: askavet@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2009 9:17 am
Subject: [AskAVet] Re: infertil stallion
I've been following this thread a
nd finally decided to put in my 2 cents worth. I'm thinking of the frustration this poor stallion is feeling, being out with "his" mares and not being able to perform. While it may seem amusing to watch him trying to accomplish the deed, it just seems cruel to me. Either get him a mare he can actually penetrate or keep him away from mares or geld him. JMHO
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--- In askavet@yahoogroups .com, Kim Hollingsworth <kim_hollingsworth@ ...> wrote:
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> Yeah I was glad the sheath cleaning was mentioned, it's a very important point as well as the point that while our stallions may be fumbling right now with their doodles, they may not forever.? This morning Tonto was with the mare that "mothered" him and he was standing beside her and err, how shall I put it, just copulating with nothing.? Then he tried, and again, he can't reach, so aborts.?
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