Horse: Re: [AskAVet] Re: infertil stallion

I just ordered the DVD on Cloud, it's a two set one, so grateful for being told about that. I looked at the book, but for the moment I would love to watch Cloud first, then maybe consider the book. I also ordered "The Organic Horse" by Peter Gray, about keeping horses in a natural way.

If anybody has any other suggestions for literature or DVDs on stallions and keeping horses in a natural manner, I would love to look them up.

The idiots out here used to aerial shoot the wild horses, until there was an outrage. But I think they are still destroying them in another manner....are they protected in the USA? I would love to see a wild band of horses in real life.

Kim xoxoxo

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From: Kim Hollingsworth <kim_hollingsworth@yahoo.com.au>
To: askavet@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 2 October, 2009 8:01:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AskAVet] Re: infertil stallion

Wow, I found there is a book and a DVD on "Cloud" the wild stallion. If you read the reviews it is pretty brutal in parts, but shows natural behaviour.

Here is the link for all the DVDs and books I found available, as they have now apparently stopped manufacturing "Cloud" on DVD.

http://www.amazon. com/Cloud- Stallion- Rockies-Clouds- Returns/dp/ B0000CBXZX/ ref=sr_1_ 1?ie=UTF8& s=dvd&qid= 1254477250& sr=1-1

I went to Amazon Books. I have ordered internationally from this site many times and found it very reliable. But by reading the reviews, I don't think Lisa and I should let our stallions Sonny and Tonto watch it!!!

Kim xoxoxo

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From: Kim Hollingsworth <kim_hollingsworth@ yahoo.com. au>
To: askavet@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Friday, 2 October, 2009 7:36:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AskAVet] Re: infertil stallion

Hi CJ,

I was just wondering, when you were telling us about the wild stallions, how would it work in my herd, with several mares, a dominant mare and the stallion and two up and coming colts who are 3 with zero sexual interest right now?

Just say Tonto is not gelded.... will he reign and the other two never approach a mare, or would he fight the other two? Just hypothetical, this is. I do not plan on having three stallions!!! ! I am just very interested in this whole topic.

I just recall a gentle stallion at a Stock Horse Stud I went to, he was in with many mares and their foals and was never a problem they said.

Thanks! Kim xoxoox

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From: CJ Ewell <fnp_cj@hotmail. com>
To: askavet@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Friday, 2 October, 2009 8:12:05 AM
Subject: RE: [AskAVet] Re: infertil stallion

Out in the wild a colt is banished from his mother's band somewhere around 18 mo, give or take (and this seems to be related to the season he was born in and the geographical area). He meets up with others like him and they form a bachelor band. As they mature, they will each try to invade and take over a band of mares from an established stallion. This may take many attempts. Some are badly injured, some die. Some never make it.

Those who succeed then must take care of that band, until another upstart comes along. Life is not easy for a stallion in the wild.

CJ Ewell

To: askavet@yahoogroups .com
From: PrincessLisa369@ aol.com
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:22:24 -0400
Subject: Re: [AskAVet] Re: infertil stallion

Since I'm forever on a quest to learn and grow I have to ask.? I read a lot about "natural horsemanship" and maintaining the integrity of the horse.? They say he should be able to do what comes naturally to him and so on and we should learn how horses behave rather than forcing them to behave as we do so to speak.? So with that in mind,?what would?the stallion?do if he were out in the wild?? I'm really just wondering.?

Lisa

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From: oagrant <oagrant@roadrunner . com>
To: askavet@yahoogroups .com
Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2009 9:17 am
Subject: [AskAVet] Re: infertil stallion

I've been following this thread and finally decided to put in my 2 cents worth. I'm thinking of the frustration this poor stallion is feeling, being out with "his" mares and not being able to perform. While it may seem amusing to watch him trying to accomplish the deed, it just seems cruel to me. Either get him a mare he can actually penetrate or keep him away from mares or geld him. JMHO
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--- In askavet@yahoogroups .com, Kim Hollingsworth <kim_hollingsworth@ ...> wrote:
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> Yeah I was glad the sheath cleaning was mentioned, it's a very important point as well as the point that while our stallions may be fumbling right now with their doodles, they may not forever.? This morning Tonto was with the mare that "mothered" him and he was standing beside her and err, how shall I put it, just copulating with nothing.? Then he tried, and again, he can't reach, so aborts.?
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