Oh thank you!! I should have confessed I have actually had the rescues for a while now, so they have been wormed regularly before this wormer coming, sorry I should have explained that, mentioning they have lice sounds like I just got them in!!! But (yikes) I have owned them all for at least 3 months (2 in great shape 3 months ago, but were on the killing list), some have been here for 10 years, as I don't sell on.
But it is a very very important point you made, one that everyone should heed who does rescue horses, as I once got a skin and bone mare (and I mean skin and bone like you can't imagine still being alive) and you are absolutely spot on, as my first thought was to worm her and the first thing all the horse people at the dogger sale said was don't until she puts on weight and make it a mild wormer. It was sound advice like yours, as today this horse is the fattest in my herd and going strong!!! Had I wormed her then, I probably would have killed her. She made all the "starved" horses on the internet look fat. Honestly, I have yet to see anything like she was.
It was sad that day, she was the first mare to go through at the Christmas sale, and I was not there to buy, but to watch and my eyes almost popped out of my head, I could not believe this poor, poor mare was still alive. Nobody bid. The place was silent. Then auctioneer asked "who wants to give this mare a chance for $10?"
I couldn't let her go, I had to try, even if it meant she came home to pass away with me, it was just hideous the condition they let that horse get into. When I showed the RSPCA the photos they almost died and said "she was for sale? from where?????" I said "in full view of the public at the local sales....."
I called her Elly May and she is an Australian stock horse, still going strong from that horrible day for her Christmas 2004. I have never ridden her, I still think of how weak that must have made her, the whole starvation thing. But one day I was jingling a bridle and she got so excited and ran over to me, like someone was going to ride her. Obviously a horse ridden at some stage, but dunno if after seeing her like that I will ever have the courage to get on her, I would feel slack.
Kim
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From: Lori Mardis <mcquade@ohio.edu>
To: askavet@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 28 August, 2009 5:17:29 AM
Subject: Re: [AskAVet] Re: Whole horse herd has lice!!!
If they haven't been wormed in a while you'll want to start off with a
'lighter' wormer (safeguard or strongid) first then move on to the ivomec.
At least that's what my vet told me when I rescued one in bad shape.
Lori
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Kim Hollingsworth <
kim_hollingsworth@ yahoo.com. au> wrote:
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I am so grateful for all the suggestions! !
>
> It has really helped me to cover every horse...as I do rescues, there are
> some horses here that do not wanna know about a hose or shampoo, so that's
> why the garlic bread I am hoping, will do the trick for them. Then I will
> move up each level, but these difficult ones I may have to resort to one of
> the expensive pour on liquids down their back, as they won't allow much else
> at this stage in their lives.
>
> The rest of the horses I can handle ok, so I am so excited I have many
> options of solving this problem for them. Whatever is simplest, easiest and
> cheapest I will be trying first, then move up as I go. But I am buying the
> lot today, as I need to have it all there, ready to go as I move up the
> levels, without overloading them ofcourse.
>
> But definitely worming them with ivermectin as suggested, found the correct
> wormers last night on internet, but going to go to saddlery store to see if
> cheaper today.
>
> I can't thank you enough for all of these excellent ideas, I will let you
> know how I go!!! It will be a laborious exercise, but well worth it for my
> babies!
>
> I have learnt so much!!! Let's see what works for my babies!
>
> When I posted this message for help, I felt so daunted with it all, but
> here I am after all of your suggestions, really excited and feelin very
> positive about it, as you have all collectively covered all the horses, esp
> the difficult ones in my herd. And oh yes, it is springtime on Sept first
> here, so yeah, I want them lookin good, thank God I can wash them if I need
> to!
>
> Kim xxxx
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
>
> From: Kim Hollingsworth <kim_hollingsworth@ yahoo.com. au<kim_hollingsworth% 40yahoo.com. au>
> >
> To: askavet@yahoogroups .com <askavet%40yahoogro ups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, 27 August, 2009 6:28:18 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [AskAVet] Re: Whole horse herd has lice!!!
>
>
> Devorah, Sonja and Dorothy,
>
> Thank you all so so very much!!
>
> Wow, the garlic bread sounds very interesting! !! So, while I am waiting
> for my order to arrive (I had ordered stuff thru my sister who is vet nurse,
> but now she says they can't order certain things or something, so back to
> square one with ordering, damn, I was hoping for wholesale prices).....
> tomoro I am going to buy a tonne of garlic bread and let it go hard for a
> day, as any topical applications will have to be done next week at any rate,
> as I am working dawn to dusk doing trail rides until Monday/Tues.
>
> Then I will have to order my stuff via internet, I guess, but I will pop
> down to garden centre to see if this dust is available in Australia (Sevin)
> or the other horse specific one at horse saddlery tomoro just to see if I
> can find anything on special and compare prices. If not, I will have to
> order off net, as I waited long enough for my sister, and it is not fair on
> the horses.
>
> They just happen to be overdue for worming (was waiting on money!) so
> ivermectin it is for this round of worming!!! I can do garlic bread
> tomorrow, and my next free day is Tuesday afternnon, so I will worm them
> then and Wednesday will be the labour intensive stuff of maybe a normal
> shampoo, dry and powder, starting with the worst of them.
>
> Now someone suggested mixing the powder into the normal horse shampoo and
> shampooing, rinsing off after ten mins? Has anyone tried that?
>
> The pour on stuff is going to be so expensive as you said Dorothy, I may
> just get that for the horses that do not tolerate being bathed actually, but
> hopefully the GARLIC bread will do the trick before I get to that stage.
>
> Lots to do, but I couldn't have done it without all your help!!! I will
> certainly let you know how I go!!! First stop tomoro, garlic bread.
> Tonight, check out internet prices (29 horses!) and tomoro check prices at
> garden centre and then saddlery.
>
> Thank you all so much!!! I already have a shampoo for dermatitis for dogs
> (ok for horses). called PYOHEX (chlorexidine based)...would it be TOO much
> to mix the powder with it, or better to shampoo seperately, then just
> powder?
>
> Thanks so so so much!!!!
>
> Kim xoxoxo
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Sonja Carson <scspainthorses@ embarqmail. com>
> To: askavet@yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009 10:20:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [AskAVet] Re: Whole horse herd has lice!!!
>
>
> I got to thinking about the lice , what we actually used was for chickens
> we bought it at the local farm and home, i can't think of the name of it
> though it's been so long ago now .
> sonja
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: dominionracingstabl es
>
> To: askavet@yahoogroups .com
>
> Sent: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 05:33:51 -0400 (EDT)
>
> Subject: [AskAVet] Re: Whole horse herd has lice!!!
>
> Years ago, I bought some sale horses who infested my mare herd with lice.
> Topical appliations did not help me. I discovered a cure purely by accident.
> We had a food back for the community at the time and some day old, hard
> garlic bread had been donated. It was too old to give to people so we tossed
> it to those horses. The garlic got rid of the lice entirely.
>
> Let me know what happens,
>
> Devorah
>
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>
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